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Old 18th July 2011, 03:44 AM
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I have read some interesting comments on here. My grandson (almost 4) has been complaining of sore legs for over a year now. He has been diagnosed with flat feet and I believe the leg pain is related to the extra work his leg muscles have to do to keep him moving, although there could be another reason (see below). Massage in this case does seem to help. However, in recent months he has begun waking during the night in a great deal of distress complaining of pain in his foot/feet. Contrary to what others have said though, he will not let anyone touch is foot when he has this type of pain. The foot usually feels quite warm to the touch, which makes me wonder whether this is some sort of inflammatory process. I do think the leg pains and foot pains are from different causes. Interestingly, some recent blood tests have indicated that he has Haemochromatosis (high iron levels), which can manifest in leg and other pains. However, I have not been able to find any reliable documentation on symptoms showing up in a child so young. We are awaiting further specialist appointments.
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Hello, my son has been having this problem, also with his knee, on the same foot (right) for over a year now. He wakes up, inconsolable and sometimes outright panicking because of the pain. I know he wasn't faking it either. After I got him to sleep, I thought maybe he was exaggerating it so I felt it was worth ruling out before making his appt. I touched the area of his foot he had indicated was the problem (his arch) and he woke up and again and screamed. I felt like poop for making him hurt again, but at least I know he is not faking it.

We both have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome and I am wondering if it is related. I have foot issues as well (strange curling-sensation type pains in my arch, when I am standing a lot) and what I think must be bursitis in my big toe, since gout and arthritis and injury have been ruled out. My son is 4.5 yrs and he has always been flat-footed and over-pronates. When he first started complaining of his knee, I took him to my joint doc and he did an x-ray and also blood work. My son's films where fine, except it showed he has mild hip dysplasia and he also mentioned it was possible he had "discoid meniscus" which I know little about, other than I am assuming it's a misshapen meniscus.

While I only have the pains when I first wake and when I am on my feet too long, my son mostly seems to get them at rest, especially in his sleep, and even more frequently at night. Also, he has been having problems with his stomach as well, he alternates between normal bowel movements and then nothing but greasy water, with no patterns in his diet or any indications of it being an illness to blame. He never has a fever, he acts fine, no malaise, no one else ever "catches" it, etc. I just have no idea what I should do- I really don't want to make an appt for foot pain and diarrhea, when neither is really adversely affecting the majority of his day, he is not too limited by it. But it is certainly distressing to me to see him in this kind of pain and to deal with these issues. I just don't want to get the appt, go in, pay my co-pay and be told "Eh, it's growing pains" or "Eh, it's something viral."

Some of these children I believe, especially when they describe the pains as "cold", are possibly experiencing Raynaud's Syndrome. I had that to some degree when I was breastfeeding. The cold causes constriction with vasospasms which can cause pain.
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Well this is fascinating. I do feel a little guilty b/c I was starting to wonder if my daughter has been faking. She is 4 1/2 and has been waking up with foot pain off and on for the last year or so. It doesn't happen very often, maybe once every month or 2, but when it does she is in tears. I was wondering if she was faking or just having nightmares and for some reason kept using her foot as an excuse. It just seemed odd that her feet never bother her during the day, only at night. Sometimes just one and sometimes both. I am glad to know we aren't alone, although it seems that not very many people have found answers. Looks like I have some research to do!
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I feel as if I'm a little late on the topic, but I'm a 20 year old female. When I was younger I would have the same pains in my feet and the back of my calves. My mom and dad always attributed it to 'growing pains' although I know there is 'no such thing'. It was pretty severe when I was younger, but at 20, I still get them from time to time. OTC pain meds usually took care of my symptoms (ibuprofen, Tylenol, etc.).
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Old 5th September 2011, 01:45 PM
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Does anyone's child have other symtoms such as..

Itching
stomach pain
Heart murmur
double jointed

Also as a baby my son would of been considered low tone
Oh my god - Yes! Yes to the itching, heart murmur and stomach issues/malabsorption since he was little (he is 5 now) he was diagnosed with Gastritis and Gerd last year and has been on Zoton for a long while. He still gets bad stomach pains all the time though. And he gets awful foot cramps all the time - maybe 3 times a week sometimes more, they can last hours and I have to massage them out - he is screaming in pain. I also get these cramps and have done since I was little. It has come to light in the last few years that I have a couple of autoimmune diseases - celiac and some kind of Connective tissue one that they cant pintpoint.
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My husband found this board at 1:30 am while up with my daughter who was crying with foot pain. she is almost 7 and this has been going on for close to 4 years now. We have done the following: 1. massage the foot (I use lavender oil with the massage) 2. I bought this arnica cream for soreness and rub that in as well. 3. What I've found to really help was bambini shoe inserts. My sister told me to try it because her daughter went through the same thing and the guy in the shoe store recommended it. She uses it for herself too. I ordered it for my daughter and it was amazing. We put it in her shoes and her night pain stopped. One night she woke up in pain again and I thought Oh Well -guess it doesn't really work but when I went to get her shoes I realized that someone took the inserts out and put it in another pair of shoes! That made me realize how much it helped her. Shoe inserts got lost in beginning of summer. She wore crocs all summer long and had no pain. Started school yesterday (new school shoes) and was crying last night in pain. It happened to be quite cold outside so interesting to note that cold may do it. Her shoes are good shoes and they fit well so I don't think its the shoes but I'm going to buy another pair of those inserts.
My husband gave her tylenol and she finally fell asleep. I don't think tylenol is a good and healthy solution. It happens too often to keep taking tylenol.
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Hi about 2yrs ago my son who was 6 yrs old at that time would complain that his feet hurt this went on for about 6 months I took him to his doctor and she couldn't figure out what it was she send us home with motrin well it got worst because my son just stopped walking completely he would cry and sceam every time he tried to walk so I got really worried and I keept taking him to the doctor and she did x- rays and didn't find anything . I told her that at night it was worst because my son would wake up in the middle of the night screaming and crying due to the pain . So she referred. My son to a spacialist in childrens hospital well they did the samething x- rays and nothing at this time my son was using a wheel chair the dr send us home saying he was feaking it he was just trying to get some attention well I didn't believe it I believed my son I know he was in a lot of pain so I keept taking him and insisting for a mri well after 4 stressful months fighting with dr, and specialist they finally agreed to do a mri well on dec-16-2009 I got the worst news of my life the results came back and he was diagnosis. With lymphoma leukemia my son is still fighting. This disease. He is on chemotherapy for 2 yrs now and he is walking and doing much bettet now. I just feel that I should tell other parents that you should believe your kids and don't give up make sure you know for. sure what your child really has we have to push the doctors and keep taking them to the doctor. If I would of believe the dr when she said my son is feakin it and that he may have mental problems my son probably wouldn't be here.
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Hi, I'm a 41 year old female and when I was little, maybe 4-9/10, I had this problem. My mother, brothers or sister would constantly be rubbing my foot at night so I could go to sleep or go back to sleep, it's one of those stories that always gets told when reminiscing about when I was a child -how "everyone had to rub Krissy's feet". One doctor told my mother it may be due to me being "over-tired". I guess I would only take naps occasionally as a child, and when I did, they were very short, 15-30 minutes I'm told, so the over-tired reason sounded acceptable. As an adult, I do often still get foot pain, at least once a week, it's almost always the right foot and it IS often at night when I'm tired. Mine doesn't feel cold, it just hurts down to the bones, every toe joint, the arch, the top - basically the top half of my foot. Rubbing it, either someone else or myself, provides the most relief. I also wonder if it's some kind of arthritis at this point. But I, nor my family members, will ever forget the countless nights I was in pain, I am so grateful for one brother in particular who was an older teenager at the time and would be the one to rub my foot 9 times out of 10.

So my advice to parents and any older siblings or family members in the household is to please be patient and please rub away, it will bring relief, both physical AND emotional to your child during these times - and they'll remember it for the rest of their lives.
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Dear Foot Doc,
My nine year old daughter has been waking weekly at night with excruciating foot pain, it is now coming during the day. Today her teacher wrote a note to say it struck during school hours. I have tried many things to alleviate this over the last six years. the pain is predominantly on the top of her foot over her instep. I have tried insoles, massages, hot towels, pain killers..etc.
I am going to new Gp this week for review, is there anything else I should be doing?
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Old 3rd October 2011, 04:11 AM
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We have struggled with foot pain for several years now. I am up because we just had another case. My daughter is 9 and we've been to 2 podiatrists and a pediatric orthopedic specialist at Vanderbilt University. So far we haven't gotten a lot of answers. After tonight's incident I'm definately going to me more demanding about searching for the cause. Hers is only at night, only one foot and she wakes up shaking in tears from the pain. She has never said anything about the foot being cold. I gave her ibuprofen and rubbed as best I could and after 1 hour she calmed and has gotten back to sleep. I hate to see her in so much pain! I can't seem to find any help - all blood tests have been done to rule out medical conditions and were normal. I think the next step is that they want to look at her back, but the pain is always only in the foot..... what to do?
How are you. I have a 8 yr old little girl and have had every blood test done and nothing has came about, I also have had her at the dr numerous times and have gotten no where with anything. They all like to say growing pains, but if it was there child crying in pain up at night im sure they would have came up with the real "growing pains" diagnosis. I am just so sad that there is nothing I can do or go to for help. Have you gotten any further with your search. As I type I just rubbed her foot back to sleep, once again. poor thing. please let me know if you found out anything because your siutation was so similiar to ours when I read it! Thanks so much and I hope your little girl is doing better! : ) Lisa and Gianna
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Hey everyone, sorry to hear about your kids and yourselves with this terrible foot thing.

I have a 8 yr old little girl and have had every blood test done and nothing has came about, I also have had her at the dr numerous times and have gotten no where with anything. They all like to say growing pains, but if it was there child crying in pain up at night im sure they would have came up with the real "growing pains" diagnosis. I am just so sad that there is nothing I can do or go to for help. As I type I just rubbed her foot back to sleep, I dont know what to do, every dr likes to direct you to the next dr and so on, and if it was me I wouldnt be so worried but its my poor little girl and I just wish I could make it stop or better yet make it not even start. Good luck to all and please share with me anything to help

: ) Lisa and Gianna
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Old 22nd November 2011, 11:25 AM
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Okay so in a panic I looked up childrend foot pain to see what to do for my poor littl guy, he just turned 7 and this has never happened before. Around 20:30 last night my son started cmplaining about foot pain, he's like "mom" my feet hurt because they' re "COLD" so naturally as a mom I rubbed his little feet and then told him to put a blanket on. He complained until bed and then cried when he was putting his pjs on and then I started to worrie a little after he fell asleep thinking what can be wong with my kid??? Well at around 00:15 I hear this sobbing noise I'm thinking it's the neighbors so I check on my kids and its son bawling his eyes crying out about both his feet hurting and asked why he thought they may hurt he just cried out "I don't know mom they just really hurt" As for the cold thing he describes it as "WALKING ON SHARP ICE" He also said "IT FEELS LIKE FROZEN PORQUPINES ARE BITTING HIS FEETS" Then asked him if it felt tingly? He said yeah mommy like whemy hands go to sleep. My remedy ...... I picked him up comforted him walked around with him in my arms gave him some childrens tylenol rubbed his feet filled bowl of warm plain tap water and let his feet soak then I refilled his bowl but this time I putt warmer water and continued this about or so times each time with warmmer water till hot ut still barable for a little guy gave him some hot choclate with marshmellows let him play some late videogames he's totally fine now!! Thankgawwwd G-LUCK TO Y'ALL <3
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Old 22nd November 2011, 11:38 AM
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Hey everyone, sorry to hear about your kids and yourselves with this terrible foot thing.

I have a 8 yr old little girl and have had every blood test done and nothing has came about, I also have had her at the dr numerous times and have gotten no where with anything. They all like to say growing pains, but if it was there child crying in pain up at night im sure they would have came up with the real "growing pains" diagnosis. I am just so sad that there is nothing I can do or go to for help. As I type I just rubbed her foot back to sleep, I dont know what to do, every dr likes to direct you to the next dr and so on, and if it was me I wouldnt be so worried but its my poor little girl and I just wish I could make it stop or better yet make it not even start. Good luck to all and please share with me anything to help

: ) Lisa and Gianna
You could try soaking them in warm water gradually making it warmer rub them and childrens pain Meds goodluck.
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Old 29th November 2011, 06:58 AM
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hi i have a child 2 and half years old. i was wondering when its time to sleep at night and very sleepy he complains his toes , as u can see he sometimes fold his toes and i was wondering what happened, if i ask him he said it hurts... can anybody explain to me if this is growing pains or just grabbing our attention ....
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Old 29th November 2011, 08:15 PM
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My daughter now 9 never complained but my son 2 is very
Active and has experienced this 3 times. Last night he woke up at 4am crying and Grabbing his feet saying shoes(he doesn't know they're called feet). His shoes are not the problem as he has had on different shoes when this happened and I buy him wide stretchy shoes. I gave him pain reliever, massaged his feet with baby oil and put on thick socks. I was worried at first but now I think is only common sense that after a long active day his little body gets tired. He runs, jumps, stretches all day. I ran 4 miles the other day and by night my legs and feet felt as if i had fallen off a cliff, so imagine your busy busy little bees. His also expressed his feeling at the end of day like most parents on this blog. If this continues as he gets older i will get an evaluation
but for now it's only been 3 times and within a year since he's been more active. He woke up this morning, storming into the room to watch bubble guppies.
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You could try soaking them in warm water gradually making it warmer rub them and childrens pain Meds goodluck.
Massage her feet with some type of oil, i use baby oil on my baby and give him pain medicine. Comfy socks and make sure they dont step on cold floor specially in the morning since their bodies are warm. That can cause cramps. My daughter doesn't have this problem but she is not as active as the baby.
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Their body temperature is dropping at night and the feet get even colder. They started walking a few years ago but became especially active recently because they got stronger i.e. jumping, running, hopping, other crazy things kids do. This puts stress on their legs and feet they haven't ever experienced before. This stress shows up at night especially on colder nights. So keep those little feet toasty at night using their own body heat with long thick wool socks tucked over their pajamas to keep the body heat over their feet and legs. This method is also works if your feet are cold as well although it would look funny if you did it in public.
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Old 26th December 2011, 04:49 AM
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HONESTLY, all I can say is... "me too".
My 6 year old niece suffers from it every single night as well... its really sucky.
She cries, sometimes even silently until someone massages her feet. She falls asleep shortly after. It only happens at night and feet are most definitely not cold.

If it helps ANYONE on this forum: I heard somewhere, some pain is mainly psychological. So I told her that I was going to rub "Magic cream" on her feet (it was just normal body lotion). I massaged it into her feet and she fell asleep a lot quicker than she usually does. So to be honest I'm just confused as to whether its all in her head, of if it hurts and she makes a big deal, or if she's in genuine pain and just falls asleep with it because she's just THAT tired.

My poor baby ;(
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Am i the only one who would NOT make use of the services of Foot Dic (not a typo) based solely on his perceived lack of bedside manner? I found this thread looking for short term remedies for the pain my 4 yr old has been struggling with for months. But I am almost immediately turned off by this guy's arrogance. Seems like a miserable individual.
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First of all i would like to say who ever u r foot doc u seem 2 b very rude! These people are concerned about their children and u take a rude sarcastic tone with many of ur replies. Second my child has also had these same night pains and i assumed she was just having what my mom always told me was charlie horses in my feet. She said it was a lack of potassium in my system and would give me a banana and send me back to bed i have also done the same for my daughter. Just this very night to be exact. I give her a banana and have her slowly walk it out and she then goes back to bed.
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My 3 1/2 y.o. son is having foot pain. We took him in and they ruled out rhuematoid arthiritis and sent us to a specialist for a possible non-dislocated 4th metatarsal fracture. The Dr. seemed annoyed that we were there, looked at the x-rays for 20 seconds and said there is nothing wrong. I was persistent as his pediatric Dr. is concerned also, he agreed to try a walking boot. We did it for 6 weeks and the pain went away. He said if it came back that we would have to do bone scans and many other tests. The more active he is or if he doesn't take a nap the worse the pain is. This has been going on since last March, has anyone else had the pain for this long? Should I get a second opinion,or start with bone scans. Also I have had people mentioned restless feet instead of restless legs?? Any thoughts anyone?
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My son is 10 he has complained about night time foot pain for some time now. He has so far been diagnosed with "leg length discrepancy" and the foot pain is a result of that and extremely high arch on the right foot. He is seeing a othopedic doctor in a few days to find out why one lag is longer than the other. Hope this helps someone get closer to an answer, do take the pain serious I wish I did sooner.
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Old 23rd January 2012, 08:15 PM
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Finally figured out the cause of my son's night time foot pain. He has Hypermobility Syndrome. Since finding this out I have met 3 other children with similar night time foot pain who have hypermobility syndrome. He also has an issue with his heart that indicates he has possible Marfan Syndrome. Turned out for us all his issues are fairly related.

If your child is waking up screaming with foot pain you might want to look into this. Its a relief to finally know the cause although there is very little in the way of treatment. The positive news is we found out about his heart condition and possible Marfan's syndrome which does need to be monitored and that dad has a heart condition that needs to be monitored.
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Old 29th January 2012, 09:20 AM
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Wow am up at 3 am googling this because
My 3 year old woke up at 2am crying from
Pain. Gave him Motrin. Will go to the doctor
See what happens and update you all. Glad
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I find a way to cure the night time leg pain in children. And I believe I know why it happens.

You must notice that the night your child had foot pain is the day he/she played a little harder. And he/she ate the same amount of food as usual. Lower sugar level in blood at night cause the pain. The cure is: drink a cup of sweet milk. The pain will relieve in a minute. It is simple and safe, just siring 1 table spoon sugar in 8 oz. warm milk (sugar dissolve fast in warm milk)

My daughter started night time leg pain at age three. I took her to the doctor and she was diagnosed as growing pain. But the doctor didn't know why it happens and no cure for that. I tried everything I could to comfort her like massage, warming pad, even pain relieve spray but nothing actually worked. After so many helpless and sleepless nights, I decided to try pain relieve medicine: Tylenol. In less than one minute after taking Tylenol the pain was gone and in two minutes she fall asleep again. I was amazed and also questioned. As I know no medicine taking by mouth could effect that fast. Sugar! The sugar in Tylenol works. The next time I tried sweet milk and it worked!

I personally prefer a cup of sweet warm milk. You could try a can of soda drink (not diet) if you like. To prevent it happens again, encourage your child eat more if they play harder that day.

Try it, it is 100% harmless. Please share with other parents if it works for your child.
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Old 19th February 2012, 10:22 AM
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I'm in my thirties, and I was browsing the internet because I'm in pain (AGAIN) and it's been on and off since I was a kid. I remember always telling my mom that my feet hurt, and when we did go to the doctor on a routine check-up she mentioned it and the doctor asked me about it, and I said the pain was deep inside my foot In the end, the doctor thought nothing of it and I was left to suffer. But the pain is real -- it's just hard to explain to parents how they hurt, exactly. So when I was younger, I would wrap/tie bandannas to my ankle, put my feet against the wall, or let my feet hang over the bed... it's weird how trying to temporarily cut off circulation would relieve the pain, but I liked how good it felt when the blood came rushing back to my foot. When I got older, I finally understood the trigger: cold. I also had some thyroid problems in high school, so I'm wondering if I have Reynauds. In any case, cold nights like these are uncomfortable, but I've just taken to wearing good old-fashioned socks and getting foot massages when I can.

I guess the symptoms and causes are different for everybody, but it IS a relief to affirm that the pain wasn't imaginary, and I wasn't alone back then! Good luck to everybody out there, and may your kids find relief, even in a warm comforting hug from mom and dad.
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Old 23rd February 2012, 03:47 AM
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My 4 year-old daughter, same thing. Foot Dr. said he sees it a lot with young girls (didn't mention boys) who wear their princess shoes/hard shoes where the top of the shoe cuts across the middle of the top of the foot. The pressure of stopping, starting, shuffling, etc. all day puts pressure on the tendons/bone and only really hurts when they lie down and try to sleep (night time or day-time naps) as the pressure on/off the foot has changed dramatically and starts throbbing - and they can't specify where the pain is as it hurts all over the foot. Wearing tennis shoes, Ibuprofin, etc. and not wearing the hard shoes for about 2 weeks should help.
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my son is 4 years old and for the last 3 months has been experiencing not foot pain, but in the toes, when he wakes at night he tenses all his muscles and screams because of the feeling in his toes(both feet) he says they hurt and it can take up to an hour to calm him. my doctor has no clue, and we're not quite sure what avenue to take on this. if anyone has suggestions on this please please pass it on...
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Some kids have foot pain for various reasons, and sometimes kids are bad about describing pain-whether that is location or type. I am a pediatric physical therapist so I get to see a good deal of kids. Some foot things just to take notice-how does your kiddos arch look? If it your kid has flat feet or the ankle rolls in (pronated). After a while you can get midfoot break down which can manifest on the top of the foot. You may try orthotics-custom made or over the counter. If your kiddo has a high arch you may get almost like a plantar fasciitis (typically pain in the morning). You see pain in the morning due to the feet being pointed down while you slep then you get out of bed, bed your foot, stretch your arch, creating pain. Maybe your kiddos are stretching in the middle of the night, thus stretching the plantar fascia creating pain. This pain is often relieved with anti-inflammatories (advil, etc), massage, ice/heat. Again, orthotics/shoe insert can help.

You may try to incorporate daily stretching routines for your kiddos if they can tolerate-stretch hamstrings, calves (gastrocs/soleus), and toes. Do all in the morning and evening and be gentle. You may try to get a script to see a pediatric physical therapist to check out how your kid walks, their posture, and their muscle/bone alignment.
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I have 2.5 yr old son who has sporadically had these pains in the last year or so. I didn't think nothing of it until it kept happening. My only guess is flat feet. I have flat feet and sometimes get pain. arches start forming in children between 2-3 yrs old. So imagine if the foot is flat and all day they are jumping, running, etc. how much pain that is on a flat arched foot. Its called flat catas????? something. anyways, im going to the podiatrist to see if i can get him some type of special shoes to help him. He doesn't have the pain often, just sometimes. Like tonight he couldn't sleep for 2 hrs because of it and they def. don't want attention, i have walked in on him with bare feet- he took his socks off and sitting on his bed. and i ask him whats wrong and he points to his feet. I hate seeing my baby in pain so im gonna take him in to the doc and see what he says.
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